You are not explaining this very well at all. ALL privilege systems include the oppressed. I am marginalised because I have mental disabilities but I also am privileged to receive therapy to diagnose my mental disabilities. Just because I am marginalised with mental disabilities does not make me any less economically privileged to be able to treat them.
People can have eating disorders at any size including this mysterious “ideal body size” you’re purporting The assumption is that thin people may have eating disorders if they are “too thin” (again, usually women. notice how all of this body scrutiny often doesn’t include men) but that line is always contextually drawn. I’m sure you’re well aware than many people with EDs experience praise if they do lose weight and are seen as an “ideal body size”.
People with EDs aren’t always thin. They are sometimes “fat” sometimes “slightly fat” sometimes “ideal”. No matter what we’re going to include people with EDs when we’re talking about size. I’m not going to deny the existence of thin privilege just because the word “thin” may or may not include people with EDs, because the word “fat” includes those people as well. People with EDs come in ALL shapes and sizes. All discussions on body include them.
“Thin” is no more of a bad word than “white” or “wealthy”. Being privileged does not make you “bad”. It just makes you privileged. And “fat” tends to be used way more as a “bad word” than thin. Thin privilege exists.
I’m still not understanding what the ideal body type is that is accepted, especially since no one can tell your BMI by looking at you. The type of body that is usually “accepted” is a thin one, not a fat one. I fully recognise that thin people, usually women, get their bodies scrutinised, but I do not believe that makes thin privilege ‘“incorrect”. You are privileged if you are thinner. I am privileged as thinner and seen as “healthier” when I’m standing next to someone who’s fatter than I am. In fact, the reason I hesitate to call myself “fat” is because I don’t believe many people contextually see me as “fat”. Thin bodies are privileged in many, many ways. The scrutiny women tend to face even being thin I do not believe is a result of thin privilege not existing, but a result of misogyny and the idea that women’s bodies are always up for critique.
I’ve never heard of a thin person not being treated by emergency medical staff because they were too busy laughing at how thin they were, or their thinness being blamed for the cause of their medical problems to the extent that critical illnesses go untreated. The reason sizeism and thin privilege are highlighted is because thin privilege results in not just rude comments and stares, but death because thinness is so usually equated with health and fatness with laziness and a lack of health. Thin privilege exists. And it’s really not incorrect.
This is a tough one, because “thin” and “fat” in my experience is completely contextual.
I’m a disabled person who is not particularly thin because of my disability. My medicine regulates my metabolism and muscle mass. Yet I hesitate to call myself “fat” because I don’t feel I’ve experienced what many “fat” people have experienced in terms of having people make assumptions about their health based on their weight. I’ve been mocked for my weight and told I was too fat, but I still have a hard time reclaiming the term. How do I really know if I’ve experienced sizeism from doctors and other people? Is the fact that most of the doctors I see are aware of my endocrine issues the reason they “excuse” my fatness?
What is “socially accepted body privilege”? Well, it really depends.
I won’t deny that thin people, usually women, get heckled for the size they are. But I do not believe that is evidence that thin privilege does not exist. Thin people and the concept that thinness, far more so that fatness, represents beauty, health, and other things are constantly portrayed in Western media. Most often when thinness is critiqued or pointed at or made fun of, I tend to notice it in conjunction with misogyny, with the idea that women’s bodies are public grounds for debate and critique. Very, very rarely do I see thin or fat men critiqued or harangued about their weight on the same level as women.
Fat people are overwhelmingly underrepresented in positive ways in media. Regardless of how many thin people are picked on for being too skinny, there are plenty of thin people who are represented in films. And coincidently, I don’t think I’ve seen a positive representation of a fat disabled person anywhere in the media but quite often when mainstream media attempts to portray disability as “sexy”, it tends to be that they still conform to thinness as a model of beauty.
I’m willing to talk about the ways in which thin people (and I find it’s usually women) experience discrimination and I’ll share your link. But I do not believe that alone negates the existence of thin privilege.
AVEN - good for general info about asexuality and the ace spectrum
Asexuality Studies - an asexual studies site with an interdisciplinary focus (it just recently stopped updating but the information will remain there)
Asexuality vid - One of many videos by Laci Green, where she talks about asexuality and interviews David Jay
As someone who’s considered IDing as “demisexual”, still having a bit of problems with the concept and label when applied to myself, I definitely do think the assumption that all individuals are automatically or should be sexual creates a very difficult environment not only for asexual people but for people who have a history of sexual or body trauma who also cannot be sexual for a variety of reasons. If you have any ace resources, please submit them. I’ll keep on the lookout for something to add as well.
Because they haven’t been submitted to me? Just because a privilege isn’t listed, doesn’t mean that it doesn’t exist. If you have a checklist you’d recommend, please submit it to me. I am only one person with my own privileges and marginalisations. I can’t possibly know about everything or have excellent resources for everything, which is why I invite people to submit things.
Oppressed groups are not a monolith. Some of them will be able to work with you, some won’t. I don’t think that your privilege ever disappears, no matter your intent. I don’t think you should approach your counselling with the idea that you will be free of it. Just be aware of it and be open to being called out on it. That’s really the best anyone could do with privilege.
Apologies to all of my followers. I’ve let this blog down by the wayside because I’ve been incredibly busy. But I will do my best to submit things here as much as possible